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	<title>Comments on: 100 million souls saved in Africa this decade: Reinhard Bonnke</title>
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		<title>By: James Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 04:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Bonnke preach here in Australia and it was the siplist gospel presentation you could hear. &#039;Nothing special&#039; if you know what I mean. He spoke about sin and then Jesus and the need to repent and believe.

I&#039;ve followed him for a while and he is more orthodox than some, and on one of his DVD&#039;s it even shows the systems they have in place to follow up decisions. It is very inter-denominational and relies heavily upon the local churches following up the converts in their area. I think its a pretty good system.

As for Australia, we need to preach the gospel. In my experience, when the gospel is preached and people are given an opportunity to respond they do :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Bonnke preach here in Australia and it was the siplist gospel presentation you could hear. &#8216;Nothing special&#8217; if you know what I mean. He spoke about sin and then Jesus and the need to repent and believe.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve followed him for a while and he is more orthodox than some, and on one of his DVD&#8217;s it even shows the systems they have in place to follow up decisions. It is very inter-denominational and relies heavily upon the local churches following up the converts in their area. I think its a pretty good system.</p>
<p>As for Australia, we need to preach the gospel. In my experience, when the gospel is preached and people are given an opportunity to respond they do <img src='http://www.thecrazyaustralian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hayesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks :)
I was wondering about that... haha</description>
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I was wondering about that&#8230; haha</p>
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		<title>By: SmartLX</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmartLX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s Portuguese.  Here&#039;s the best translation Google can manage:

&quot;God called me to preach the gospel also I praise God for the life of this man of God and my desire is to take the word of the Lord by nations such as Reinhard Bonnke exelentes videos apaz that the Lord Jesus be with vosc&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s Portuguese.  Here&#8217;s the best translation Google can manage:</p>
<p>&#8220;God called me to preach the gospel also I praise God for the life of this man of God and my desire is to take the word of the Lord by nations such as Reinhard Bonnke exelentes videos apaz that the Lord Jesus be with vosc&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tiagoleao borba</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiagoleao borba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deus me chamou para tambÃ©m proclamar o evangelho eu louvo a deus pela vida desse homem de deus e o meu desejo Ã© levar a palavra do senhor pelas naÃ§oes como reinhard bonnke exelentes videos que apaz do senhor jesus esteja com vosco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deus me chamou para tambÃ©m proclamar o evangelho eu louvo a deus pela vida desse homem de deus e o meu desejo Ã© levar a palavra do senhor pelas naÃ§oes como reinhard bonnke exelentes videos que apaz do senhor jesus esteja com vosco</p>
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		<title>By: New Look &#171; Praying For Revival</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Look &#171; Praying For Revival</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s a picture of a crusade by Reinhard Bonnke. I&#8217;ve blogged some videos of him here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Renny Masetsola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renny Masetsola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thank God for Pastor Ev Reinhard Bonnke in our age. Africa has seen the light of Jesus for such a surprice as man of God as Bonnke is one of them i can mention many Pastors, Evangelists, Apostles, Teachers of the Word and Prophets. they are many i cant finnish counting for e.g Chris Oyakhilome, Rodney Howard Brown,Benny Hinn etc the Lord is enabling them to change the Globe for Christ anyway. How are we gonna be able to except the Globe to be saved without a preacher but by God&#039;s grace the Globe get&#039;s goodnews. Thank Jesus, Halelujah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thank God for Pastor Ev Reinhard Bonnke in our age. Africa has seen the light of Jesus for such a surprice as man of God as Bonnke is one of them i can mention many Pastors, Evangelists, Apostles, Teachers of the Word and Prophets. they are many i cant finnish counting for e.g Chris Oyakhilome, Rodney Howard Brown,Benny Hinn etc the Lord is enabling them to change the Globe for Christ anyway. How are we gonna be able to except the Globe to be saved without a preacher but by God&#8217;s grace the Globe get&#8217;s goodnews. Thank Jesus, Halelujah</p>
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		<title>By: Reading Charismaniac books&#8230; and liking them. &#187; The Crazy Australian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reading Charismaniac books&#8230; and liking them. &#187; The Crazy Australian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. I&#8217;m reading Holy Spirit: Revelation &amp; Revolution by Reinhard Bonnke. Its the kind of book that I would normally judge other people for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hayesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:D
You&#039;re just jealous :P</description>
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You&#8217;re just jealous <img src='http://www.thecrazyaustralian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Healyhatman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Healyhatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 00:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[new train of thought] Last week I was having a pretty flat-affect day. Couldn’t quite put my finger on what was up, just felt drained. Wasn’t feeling particularly strong in faith either. Walking back from a lecture, thinking or praying or listening to a sermon (I can’t remember what), I suddenly burst into laughter! Joy rushed out from deep inside me like a bubble bursting - and a very simple, clear thought filled my mind:
“What will keep me a Christian for 70 years?&lt;em&gt; God! What &lt;strong&gt;else?!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;”
 
 
You, sir, are quite obviously insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[new train of thought] Last week I was having a pretty flat-affect day. Couldn’t quite put my finger on what was up, just felt drained. Wasn’t feeling particularly strong in faith either. Walking back from a lecture, thinking or praying or listening to a sermon (I can’t remember what), I suddenly burst into laughter! Joy rushed out from deep inside me like a bubble bursting &#8211; and a very simple, clear thought filled my mind:<br />
“What will keep me a Christian for 70 years?<em> God! What <strong>else?!</strong></em>”<br />
 <br />
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You, sir, are quite obviously insane.</p>
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		<title>By: hayesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree (with dale.com)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite what I meant. I meant chasing ecstatic experiences as an end in themselves. 

Of course we ought to be chasing their joy and &#039;taste of God&#039;! Of course we ought to long for their great and deep understanding of the glory of God! Of course we ought to long to see and understand more of the glory of God! 

Right now I need an uber-exclamation mark!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite what I meant. I meant chasing ecstatic experiences as an end in themselves. </p>
<p>Of course we ought to be chasing their joy and &#8216;taste of God&#8217;! Of course we ought to long for their great and deep understanding of the glory of God! Of course we ought to long to see and understand more of the glory of God! </p>
<p>Right now I need an uber-exclamation mark!!!</p>
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		<title>By: hayesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I wouldn&#039;t suggest that not feeling my personal subjective experience made anyone less of a Christian! Very few people tear their clothes in worship today - music is only one act of worship. I actually think it can be a bit manipulative. The process needs to be emotion --&gt; music, not music --&gt; emotion.

And if the gifts of the Spirit are varied, why ought its affectations be constant?

[new train of thought] Last week I was having a pretty flat-affect day. Couldn&#039;t quite put my finger on what was up, just felt drained. Wasn&#039;t feeling particularly strong in faith either. Walking back from a lecture, thinking or praying or listening to a sermon (I can&#039;t remember what), I suddenly burst into laughter! Joy rushed out from deep inside me like a bubble bursting - and a very simple, clear thought filled my mind:

&quot;What will keep me a Christian for 70 years?&lt;em&gt; God! What &lt;strong&gt;else?!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

(It&#039;s hard to give the full sense of the meaning of that thought. For context, that is a question I&#039;ve heard asked a few times. But the absurd simplicity and goodness of this answer was hilarious: how could I have thought anything else! Only immersing myself in the delights of God&#039;s goodness, &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; is what will sustain me.)

I was left wondering, &quot;where did &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; come from?!&quot; And how could such a simple (though amazing!) insight like that produce such an effect?

It strikes me as very easy to imagine a person who, when given the slightest taste of God&#039;s goodness (for oh what a sliver I must have seen!) , cannot control the sheer delight of it. Have you read what Pascal wrote on that slip of paper he sewed into his jacket?

[new train of thought] On the one hand, we don&#039;t want to fall into Corinthian-esque immaturity. On the other, I agree with Dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones: (read the &#039;you&#039; as &#039;one&#039;)
&lt;em&gt;&quot;You can be so afraid of disorder, so concerned about discipline and decorum and control, that you become guilty of what the Scripture calls &quot;quenching the Spirit&quot;&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I agree, to an extent, when you say &lt;i&gt;&quot;I don’t think it’s helpful to go seeking after the same experience&quot;&lt;/i&gt;. We need to seek God&#039;s glory first, and then the edification of the body and spreading of a passion for Him amongst the lost, all far more important than desiring private pleasures! &quot;If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.&quot; I find much wrong with chasing after loose spirits; wanting an experience for its own sake (or, worse, for ulterior motives); and especially anything that takes even the slightest focus off God.

But who can read Pascal and Edwards without wanting their joy unspeakable; their taste of God? (perhaps you can. Maybe this is just me) How I long to see more of God&#039;s glory and, by consequence, my own sinfulness! Who but the Spirit brings that? And what a difference such a movement would make if widespread! We are told to &quot;pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts&quot; (1 Cor 14:1). I don&#039;t want to categorically rule-out seeking the Spirit for these reasons.

Does it glorify Jesus? If they are, as I have been suggesting, enthralled by His glory, then little could be more glorifying, it seems to me. (Obviously, it would be made more glorifying if it later effected marked Christ-like behaviour, but Edwards argues this is always a symptom of the true Spirit). At any rate it seems to me more glorifying than an orderly but passionless liturgy. It&#039;s like Piper says in Don&#039;t Waste Your Life: seeing but not savouring Christ does not glorify Him.

ps doesn&#039;t the english language needs an exclamation question mark?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I wouldn&#8217;t suggest that not feeling my personal subjective experience made anyone less of a Christian! Very few people tear their clothes in worship today &#8211; music is only one act of worship. I actually think it can be a bit manipulative. The process needs to be emotion &#8211;&gt; music, not music &#8211;&gt; emotion.</p>
<p>And if the gifts of the Spirit are varied, why ought its affectations be constant?</p>
<p>[new train of thought] Last week I was having a pretty flat-affect day. Couldn&#8217;t quite put my finger on what was up, just felt drained. Wasn&#8217;t feeling particularly strong in faith either. Walking back from a lecture, thinking or praying or listening to a sermon (I can&#8217;t remember what), I suddenly burst into laughter! Joy rushed out from deep inside me like a bubble bursting &#8211; and a very simple, clear thought filled my mind:</p>
<p>&#8220;What will keep me a Christian for 70 years?<em> God! What <strong>else?!</strong></em>&#8221;</p>
<p>(It&#8217;s hard to give the full sense of the meaning of that thought. For context, that is a question I&#8217;ve heard asked a few times. But the absurd simplicity and goodness of this answer was hilarious: how could I have thought anything else! Only immersing myself in the delights of God&#8217;s goodness, <em>that</em> is what will sustain me.)</p>
<p>I was left wondering, &#8220;where did <em>that</em> come from?!&#8221; And how could such a simple (though amazing!) insight like that produce such an effect?</p>
<p>It strikes me as very easy to imagine a person who, when given the slightest taste of God&#8217;s goodness (for oh what a sliver I must have seen!) , cannot control the sheer delight of it. Have you read what Pascal wrote on that slip of paper he sewed into his jacket?</p>
<p>[new train of thought] On the one hand, we don&#8217;t want to fall into Corinthian-esque immaturity. On the other, I agree with Dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones: (read the &#8216;you&#8217; as &#8216;one&#8217;)<br />
<em>&#8220;You can be so afraid of disorder, so concerned about discipline and decorum and control, that you become guilty of what the Scripture calls &#8220;quenching the Spirit&#8221;"</em></p>
<p>I agree, to an extent, when you say &lt;i&gt;&#8221;I don’t think it’s helpful to go seeking after the same experience&#8221;&lt;/i&gt;. We need to seek God&#8217;s glory first, and then the edification of the body and spreading of a passion for Him amongst the lost, all far more important than desiring private pleasures! &#8220;If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.&#8221; I find much wrong with chasing after loose spirits; wanting an experience for its own sake (or, worse, for ulterior motives); and especially anything that takes even the slightest focus off God.</p>
<p>But who can read Pascal and Edwards without wanting their joy unspeakable; their taste of God? (perhaps you can. Maybe this is just me) How I long to see more of God&#8217;s glory and, by consequence, my own sinfulness! Who but the Spirit brings that? And what a difference such a movement would make if widespread! We are told to &#8220;pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts&#8221; (1 Cor 14:1). I don&#8217;t want to categorically rule-out seeking the Spirit for these reasons.</p>
<p>Does it glorify Jesus? If they are, as I have been suggesting, enthralled by His glory, then little could be more glorifying, it seems to me. (Obviously, it would be made more glorifying if it later effected marked Christ-like behaviour, but Edwards argues this is always a symptom of the true Spirit). At any rate it seems to me more glorifying than an orderly but passionless liturgy. It&#8217;s like Piper says in Don&#8217;t Waste Your Life: seeing but not savouring Christ does not glorify Him.</p>
<p>ps doesn&#8217;t the english language needs an exclamation question mark?!</p>
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