Comments on: Abortion: A Question of Rights (Part 2) http://www.thecrazyaustralian.com/abortion-a-question-of-rights-part-2/ "For me, to live is Christ and to die is gain" Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:05:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: Michelle http://www.thecrazyaustralian.com/abortion-a-question-of-rights-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-720 Michelle Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:39:52 +0000 http://www.thecrazyaustralian.com/abortion-a-question-of-rights-part-2/#comment-720 <i>In fact thinking of a growing child as a parasite yields interesting insights and potential applications of research into prenatal care.</i> Such as? <i>Besides, you talk about the importance of the father in the life of a child… If the foetus is aborted that issue becomes both null and void. And not all fathers are good fathers that have a positive effect on the lives of their children </i> And some mothers are absolutely terrible mothers. I know of a woman who in her drug-deranged state sprayed fly spray down her baby and toddlers' throats, nearly killing them. The fact that some fathers are bad is a moot point. Some mothers are worse, why is their decision more valid than the fathers? <i>Back to rape victim’s (always a good example)</i> No it's not. It's a specious argument. You don't make a general rule based on a special case. Just because it may be appropriate (and I personally don't think it is) to terminate a rape pregnancy doesn't legitimise the termination of any other pregnancy. You're understanding of abortion is skewed. The vast bulk of abortions are carried out because "did not want this baby at this time", ie, it's not convenient. In fact thinking of a growing child as a parasite yields interesting insights and potential applications of research into prenatal care.

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Besides, you talk about the importance of the father in the life of a child… If the foetus is aborted that issue becomes both null and void. And not all fathers are good fathers that have a positive effect on the lives of their children

And some mothers are absolutely terrible mothers. I know of a woman who in her drug-deranged state sprayed fly spray down her baby and toddlers’ throats, nearly killing them. The fact that some fathers are bad is a moot point. Some mothers are worse, why is their decision more valid than the fathers?

Back to rape victim’s (always a good example)

No it’s not. It’s a specious argument. You don’t make a general rule based on a special case. Just because it may be appropriate (and I personally don’t think it is) to terminate a rape pregnancy doesn’t legitimise the termination of any other pregnancy. You’re understanding of abortion is skewed. The vast bulk of abortions are carried out because “did not want this baby at this time”, ie, it’s not convenient.

]]> By: Healyhatman http://www.thecrazyaustralian.com/abortion-a-question-of-rights-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-712 Healyhatman Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:40:06 +0000 http://www.thecrazyaustralian.com/abortion-a-question-of-rights-part-2/#comment-712 The argument isn't rubbish. The baby might be a separate person but there is no way to deny the effects on the woman's body. What you're describing is a parasite - dependant on the host yet a separate entity. In fact thinking of a growing child as a parasite yields interesting insights and potential applications of research into prenatal care. You also assume that every father wants to assert his rights regarding the child... Not every father does. Back to rape victim's (always a good example), should the victim of a rape be forced to carry the rapist's child to term to protect the rights of the father? Besides, you talk about the importance of the father in the life of a child... If the foetus is aborted that issue becomes both null and void. And not all fathers are good fathers that have a positive effect on the lives of their children - for example my favourite niece? Her father tried to kill my sister in front of her with a knife. He regularly abused my sister before then, and lashed out at the children as well on occasion. Beside the point but there you have it. The argument isn’t rubbish. The baby might be a separate person but there is no way to deny the effects on the woman’s body. What you’re describing is a parasite – dependant on the host yet a separate entity. In fact thinking of a growing child as a parasite yields interesting insights and potential applications of research into prenatal care.

You also assume that every father wants to assert his rights regarding the child… Not every father does.

Back to rape victim’s (always a good example), should the victim of a rape be forced to carry the rapist’s child to term to protect the rights of the father?

Besides, you talk about the importance of the father in the life of a child… If the foetus is aborted that issue becomes both null and void. And not all fathers are good fathers that have a positive effect on the lives of their children – for example my favourite niece? Her father tried to kill my sister in front of her with a knife. He regularly abused my sister before then, and lashed out at the children as well on occasion. Beside the point but there you have it.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.thecrazyaustralian.com/abortion-a-question-of-rights-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-682 Michelle Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:20:46 +0000 http://www.thecrazyaustralian.com/abortion-a-question-of-rights-part-2/#comment-682 <i>a woman has the right to her own body</i> I think this argument is rubbish as well. A baby is not a part of a woman's body. It grows in her body, is absolutely and completely dependent on her body, but it is a different and seperate person. And what about the father's right to see his child grow up? Feminism has done a great disservice to our society by degrading and demeaning fathers and their importance in their childrens' lives! a woman has the right to her own body

I think this argument is rubbish as well. A baby is not a part of a woman’s body. It grows in her body, is absolutely and completely dependent on her body, but it is a different and seperate person.

And what about the father’s right to see his child grow up? Feminism has done a great disservice to our society by degrading and demeaning fathers and their importance in their childrens’ lives!

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