I thought the issue was closed… what do they make of articles like this?
“The report considered all the research since the last IPCC assessment in 2001 and the 21-page summary (pdf) of its findings – approved by officials from 113 countries – says that “warming of the climate system is unequivocal”.”
Or this one?
The 2nd of February 2007 will one day hopefully be remembered as the day the question mark was removed from the debate on whether human activities are driving climate change, said the head of the UN Environment Programme at the launch of the most authoritative scientific report on climate change to date….
“The word unequivocal is the key message of this report,” said Achim Steiner, executive director of UNEP, adding that those who have doubts about the role of humans in driving the climate “can no longer ignore the evidence”…
The IPCC draws together the world’s leading climate experts to review and assess all available research, under the auspices of UN Environment Programme and the World Meteorology Organization. The result of their assessment, which is done every five to six years, establishes what is considered the gold standard of consensus on climate change science.
Would the person who knows more than these scientists please step forward? Can I please see the evidence that New Scientist magazine has somehow missed?
Frankly, its embarrassing.
When you claim that recent trends disprove global warming, do you really think that these panels have somehow ‘missed’ that data? All you do is reveal your ignorance.
It’s happening. Get past that and start working out what to do about it.
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Very good point Haysey. I’m still lost and confused though…
I’m not a scientist and haven’t followed this a great deal – but for the majority of the debate I’ve seen it more being a question of world-view commitments.
The last interesting article I read showed that the global water temperatures haven’t risen in years and this is the truest indicator of climate change.
So who to trust? I don’t know! I find this guy interesting and entertaining.
I’m gunna concentrate on clean air and renewable energy. At least that’s on the way to being a good steward of God’s creation.
Keen for some links. Will read through that .pdf when I get the chance
Peace
Nice to see some religious people considering science and considering the environment… I haven’t seen much of it lately from the (few) Christian blogs I read.
Water temperature though – that’s tricky. It’s regulated a lot by the currents and by the different layers of water (of different temperature, salinity, whatever).
Thanks HH
Will keep checking all the angles.
Any sites you check out requently?
*frequently
Regarding climate change? No not really. I don’t really feel the need to keep constantly updated on climate change, it’s enough for me to know it happens. If I come across extra research though or people on blogs saying it’s crap because they either think science is crap or because Jesus tells them it’s okay to do whatever they want to the planet though I will of course take appropriate action.
Fair enough too!
I’ve enjoyed reading your heated comments on random blogs over the months. Keep em coming!
It is really weird to be on the same side as HH, tho
haha yea, it doesnt happen that often. but i tink you guys have found something that you agree on.
ok, so i do earth and environmental science
and going through all the data from past events through the history of the earth, its just appalling that people cant recognise the changes from no primitive human behaviour to humans nowdays.
like, ice ages and sudden climate change, happened due to volcanic explosions or the breaking off of the continents, via plate tectonics as well as polar wandering.
if people are staying ignorant to the changes in the environment, how are they to explain the rising in temperature and sea levels, the breaking of ice shlves and the amount of carbon in the atmosphere?
anyways
thats myy rant
oh and p.s
water temp changes alot due to el nino and water currents, but the water temp is generally warmer, sorry, lol, we studied it like all last year, and salinity levels too, lol
Haha nice rant. Yeah, it seems pretty basic science to me, but according to Joel there are some questions. I’m still in favour of reducing our environmental impact anywho, whether or not global warming is happening.
Watch out for my rampage against disposable cups!
Interestingg climate cooling story
Interesting… Thanks jpj!
“it cooled by about 0.7C in 2007″
If it had warmed by that much, I wonder how many of the skeptics would put it down to seasonal variation? One cool year does not a trend make.Yet.
As far as I can work out, the scientific basis for cooling is nowhere near that of warming – which doesn’t seem to stop skeptics from waving it about, mind you.
However, it is an interesting counter claim. Massive implications.
“Australia may escape total annihilation but would surely be overrun by millions of refugees.”
Start printing tracts.
(As an aside, I am strongly against gospel proclamation without gospel demonstration – that is, handing a tract to a hungry person = bad, giving food and a tract to the same = good.)
Glaciation is hard to reconcile with the rapid breaking-off of massive ice shelves.
Yes this is an old post, but thought i’d comment and link to a new post:
http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/slowbal_warming/
haha go for it! Thanks, I’ll give it a read.