I’m with Adrian Warnock on this: I want it all too! (And, I now have name for what I am: reformed charismatic)
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Much less confusing than all your talk of seatbelts
I understand ‘reformed’, and I understand ‘charismatic’ (well, that’s debatable, I should probably say “I have my understanding of charismatic” – what you mean by it may be different).
Actually, how I understand ‘reformed’ might be different to you as well … you’ll have to be more specific I think.
Along the lines of (for the purposes of this example only) “I’m a semi-Augustinian, quasi-Oreginist, anti-Peligianist, anti-antinomianist, semi-pro-Lutheran, five-point Calvinist with slightly Kantian leanings”. You know, could you please just spell out ALL you’re theological understandings in your ‘name’.
Sorry, I’m just reading The History of Christian Thought, and getting carried away.
Hahaha did you read the link?
Reformed in the sense of being a Calvinist (at least 4 points, I’m withholding judgment on limited atonement at the moment).
I’ve always liked djp‘s: “I’m a Calvidispiebaptogelical. One God, sixty-six books, five points, seven dispensations (+/-), five sola’s, one wife, four children, four cats, no fooling”
I’m not nearly so well considered in my views. In fact, I’ve recently been disillusioned with all the complex theologies. I’ve been reading through the gospels, it seems the message is “Follow me”.
Hmm, this could get hijacked and I’ll come back when I’m not trying to get Anastasia ready for Preschool … I think all five points only hold together as all five points.
I’ll explain why I think that later
Great posts by Warnock.
The last 18 months has been a long journey for me and Anna.
We’ve come from separate sides:
Joel – Reformed
Anna – Charismatic
and have been trying to find God, ourselves, and a church all at the same time.
By no means have we arrived but its been a hard but amazing journey
oooh can I come? That sounds like fun!
How is Anna? Say hi to her for me
Hehe! Yeah why not. Come join in on our heated discussions!
Anna’s loving Africa – she’ll be back on Monday.
She’s currently on a Safari and then finishing off building an AIDS clinic.
I’m currently on a laptop and finishing off a blog comment – not as exciting …but close
Wow – that is exciting!
Five Point Calvinistic all the way, baby.
*Throws the Institutes of the Christian Religion at you.*
lol
There was a period about a year ago where I thought: If Calvinism requires limited atonement, then I’m dropping Calvinism.
It just seemed that the verses about Christ dying for ‘all’, etc, couldn’t be much clearer.
Now I’m just plain unsure.
I’m sure you’re aware of Driscoll’s:
Limited, unlimited atonement
What’s your thoughts?
Dave and I were chatting about it last night
http://www.marshillchurch.org/Audio/Nov20_UnlimitedLimitedAtonement.pdf
http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/limitedunlimited-atonement-just-who-did.htm
P.S. I’ve got no idea whether I can use code tags on your blog these days! Hehe! Sorry for the messy layout
Sorry man, no headspace right now. I remember thinking it sounded reasonable, though I doubt I fully understood/stand it.
One thing I’m skeptical of: just because they can name something doesn’t mean it exists… I mean, theologians can draw distinctions with language that may not be meaningfully different.
PS Code tags are now back to normal. Not sure why, but not too fussed.