Comments on: Indulge the Catholic Church’s True Teachings

By: Luke C

Luke C — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:22:38 +0000

Amen, sister.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:03:28 +0000

err, that’s s’posed to be ‘ecumenically minded’

By: Michelle

Michelle — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:02:51 +0000

I’ve been incredibly frustrated by all the ecumenucally-minded protestant churches jumping on the WYD bandwagon.

What the heck was the Reformation about?

What were so many countless reformed Christians insulted, beaten, and martyred for? Were they just fools? Dying for no reason? It saddens me that we’ve forgotten so much of our history. People died to reclaim the truth of the Gospel; the grace-alone, faith-alone, Christ-alone, scripture-alone, God-glorifying gospel; and yet here we are not 500 years later talking of unity!

By: hayesy

hayesy — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:25:34 +0000

Very helpful, thanks Dan

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:09:18 +0000

Hey Healy.
I reckon you can say it’s disgusting only if you believe that the Bible’s representation of Christianity is of extreme value. If you see something as extremely valuable.. then a belief system that twists that valuable thing could be called disgusting.

By: hayesy

hayesy — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:57:13 +0000

You've gotta ask, though, is there a interpretation of something such that it loses its defining element - at which point, the interpretation becomes disgusting.

Jesus died that we may freely have eternal life, because we can't earn it. His sacrifice bought us that life - it's paid for! It's blasphemous to say we need to earn anything!

Their 'interpretation' has interpreted out the defining element of Christianity, turning it from being about relationship ("And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent" John 17:3) ) to being about religiosity.

By: Healyhatman

Healyhatman — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:05:22 +0000

No I mean, it’s pretty much a different interpretation of your religion.

By: hayesy

hayesy — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:31:09 +0000

Why’s that, Healy? Is there something I believe which you find disgusting?

By: Healyhatman

Healyhatman — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:25:32 +0000

I think it’s a bit much for you to call it disgusting Hayes If that makes you vomit you should read the news a bit more often.

By: hayesy

hayesy — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:24:21 +0000

haha – careful… if you ate with them they were also eating with a sinner

By: Anika Q

Anika Q — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:27:44 +0000

Yeah. Again, it’s the Roman Catholic idea of meriting the merit of Christ (through good works, or indulgences or whatever) rather than receiving it all simply by depending on Christ’s mercy. As such, justification isn’t a once and for all event, but a process in which we get more and more of what we need as we do more and more good things to “deserve” it.
I actually went to a WYD event on Friday night. (All my friends thought I had gone mad…but I consider it eating with tax collectors and sinners ). It wasn’t so much what *was* said (excepting the fact that they gave praise to, “God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost and Mary our Mother”) but what *wasn’t* said. It’s a tricky thing, because they use much of the same nomenclature but with totally different meanings. For example, they sang Amazing Grace (John Newton would roll in his grave…), but I know from my experiences talking to members of this particular parish that they don’t believe a word of it.